Possible changes to Monday Training

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A number of members have approached me suggesting changes to the format of Monday night training.

So use your voice over the next 7 days and let your committee know what changes you would suggest e.g. start time (currently 6:45) and whether we continue to run as one group or split into two (or more) groups at different paces.

Your committee will meet on 24th October to discuss the responses.  So either respond here on our forum or if you would prefer to remain anonymous send me an e-mail and I'll respect your privacy during the committee meeting.

Monday Training

  I used to really enjoy the Monday night run. It was the only time that I got to see some of the members and the atmosphere was very much that of a social recovery run which catered for all abilities but encouraged me to push myself a little bit harder.

As one of the more mature female runners mentioned in someones earlier post, I began to find that the mix of the group chnaged and it became much faster to the extent that I ended up feeling totally demoralised and unwelcome because people had to run back for me so I stopped coming.

I think there is a general feeling that the Monday run has already become another session just for the faster more experienced runners which is a shame. I'd like to see it back as it used to be with one moderately paced group thats more welcoming to the slower runners.  

 

monday running

To me the solution is this.Keep the run as it is and has been for over 20 years.

Anyone who doesn`t wish to join that run (me for instance) can do their own thing.

But only have one official club run.

When I joined the club in 1992 there was a good mix of fast and social runners.

We have become more serious which is not a bad thing but different.

Pat. Higgins.

Monday running

Hi, I've not run many Mondays recently but really enjoy the slower pace that it offers. I see it as social (and thus you can chat if you want) and most importantly as a recovery run with club members. If you want to run faster then loop-back if you get too far ahead. We can always run on Wednesday, Friday or Sunday if we want to push ourselves a bit harder, or on our own if necessary. I think the attraction of the social run, is to be social and have a pleasant run - so let's keep it as it is. Barry

Monday night running

Hello everyone!

I agree with the few runners that have commented on Monday nights being more social able, I to enjoy that part of running. However I feel that we should be given the opportunity to pick what speed we want to run at, I would like the option to pick between groups depending on how I feel that day especially if I have not run much over the weekend. I'm aware that we can run on another evening that's not a club night but this does not suit me or many other runners. I enjoy chatting to the other club runners before we set off which would still remain the same. I worry that if its decided to stick to one group then the faster runners or those wanting to push them selves harder will stop coming on a Monday altogether. It has been mentioned that we can go ahead then loop back although this is difficult if the group change direction! I'm more than happy to run with any runners if the group has a smaller turn out, I have really benefitted from my training with the club and would want to encourage and support other runners too.

Mondays

Hi all,

I think everyone makes good points.  I agree that it is nice to have social runs (though I am often told off for speaking toooo much! lol) but I think that we need to cater for all and it is not beneficial for some to run at a 10min mile pace when they are in training or have limited nights to run.

I personally usually have horse competitions on Sundays therefore quite often dont get to run at weekends so Monday is not a recovery for me and I quite often want to run a bit faster as its sometimes harder running slower than your natural pace. It is however, nice to have the option of a slower run if I were to do a long run or race on a Sunday.

I agree with Deena that I sometimes find the difference between Mondays and Fridays hard as I go from running 10min miles mon to under 8 on a friday (bit of a shock to the system).  I think having a choice of pace will actually encourage more people to run on mondays as we can have the slower run for new comers and those on recovery but also cater for those whom wish to go faster.  I know there are some faces I never see on a monday as they are faster.

Sorry for the essay - you know i like to talk! ha

Mondays

Hi all,

I think everyone makes good points.  I agree that it is nice to have social runs (though I am often told off for speaking toooo much! lol) but I think that we need to cater for all and it is not beneficial for some to run at a 10min mile pace when they are in training or have limited nights to run.

I personally usually have horse competitions on Sundays therefore quite often dont get to run at weekends so Monday is not a recovery for me and I quite often want to run a bit faster as its sometimes harder running slower than your natural pace. It is however, nice to have the option of a slower run if I were to do a long run or race on a Sunday.

I agree with Deena that I sometimes find the difference between Mondays and Fridays hard as I go from running 10min miles mon to under 8 on a friday (bit of a shock to the system).  I think having a choice of pace will actually encourage more people to run on mondays as we can have the slower run for new comers and those on recovery but also cater for those whom wish to go faster.  I know there are some faces I never see on a monday as they are faster.

Sorry for the essay - you know i like to talk! ha

Monday run

I think it is great to have a social run however a lot of us are mums with full time jobs and we have limited time to train. So when we do run it needs to be at the correct pace for the individual. I also think that its much safer to run in groups.

 A few people have posted that there is plenty of opportunity to run fast and I would agree but there is very little in between 10 min/miles and 8 min/miles.  I can’t be the only one that falls into the gap between. I would personally  like a 9min/mile training group any night of the week.

 

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Comment posted on behalf of Jo Hart

Jo Hart sent me the e-mail below and has asked for it to be posted on this forum:

"I think the group should stay as one social group as that is what makes Bracknell forest runners a great club, the 'running back' to get the last runner is great and has given me encouragement over the years. There is an opportunity for people to run at different speeds on a Sunday and on a Wednesday, there are the Friday runs too. I also enjoy running with the blokes and if there is a fast and slow group then inevitably a lot of the blokes will end up in the fast group and women in the slower group and even if it doesn't start off as 'fast' and 'slow' group that is what it will be known as. Because the Sunday run has different speeds of groups it can take a long time to get know people outside of your own speed group and it would be a shame if Monday runs became similar.

I think that the club might like to include a shorter run on a Monday evening for newer people or people recovering from injury as it is hard to get back into the Monday run after a break.  In the past I feel like we used to have a more diverse group of runners on a Monday evening and there were more women in the age 40-50-60 group whereas I don't think we have that now. 

Start time is fine, venue is fine."

Another perspective

As perhaps a 'faster' runner I am generally more than happy to join a faster group. However, just to play devil's advocate for a bit, I do think there may be another side to this. Having been with the club for a little over a year now, I have enjoyed the Monday night runs as a recovery run and often find that I get chatting to people (maybe slower runners) who I would probably never see on faster runs. Perhaps it would be a good thing for the club to keep this traditional run where all members can meet and enjoy each other's company. As I say, I have more than enjoyed doing so. I know some members worry about which group to join on a Sunday. On a Monday they don't have to. Also, I find there are more than enough opportunities to run fast. It would be a shame if the club were split into fast and slow, where one half never had chance to speak to the other. Perhaps Monday night runs enhance club spirit. Just a thought.

I don't often go on Mondays,

I don't often go on Mondays, but I think having more than one group is a good idea. 

As has already been said, we have more than one group on Sundays and Fridays so why not? In addition, the Monday group is getter larger and larger - almost too much for one group.

If people can't run at the speed they want to in the club then they just won't run with the club anymore on that day.

Monday Training

John

You say 'Its a Shame'

I really don't understand your comment here, Whats a shame?

You would like to think that our club would cater for all abilities as it does on Sunday's and Fridays, which as most members probably know,  I attend quite regulary and really enjoy

I'm not a Monday runner, but

I'm not a Monday runner, but it does seem a natural progression to offer varied paced groups on Mondays. As our club is expanding we are seeing an increased range of performance and, just like Friday/Sunday runs, the need for groups of all levels. Alex makes a good point with regard to numbers; we should all be prepared to run together when the group is smaller than usual. 

It's a shame.

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Monday Training

I would certainly appreciate a faster group on a Monday along side a 10 min mile group. This will then give us a choice of if we haven't had a hard weekend training/racing we can then maximise the run. Sometimes running at a slower pace than your body wants to is more tiring.

Obviously if there are only 1 or 2 people wanting to run slower we should not split the group up and all run together at the slowest persons pace as we don't want to discourage anyone from coming along.

6.45 is ok for me, I just can't do any later

Monday Training

I agree with Mike - I think it would be advantageous to everyone if there were more than one group on a Monday evening, especially if the group is large.  I appreciate that Monday night running is a social/recovery run, however I believe that this can still be achieved.

Timing of run (18:45)  is not an issue with me.

 

 

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Monday Training

I'm not a Monday runner, but if unilaterally agreed a different paced group I feel could be advantageous, some people are naturally faster, some are naturally not as fast.

I have no opinion on the start time, I like the 6pm we start at on Friday, but it's tight for some who work later hours.

Mike S